Distracted Truck Driver,
Discover the alarming truth about distracted truck drivers and the risks they pose on our highways. In this eye-opening video, we'll uncover the common distractions truckers face and the potentially catastrophic consequences. Stay informed and learn practical tips to enhance your safety on the road. Make sure to subscribe to the mission to promote responsible driving.
Corey (Wana-Raw-Vich) Woinarowicz
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corey@nocell.com
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Distracted Truck Driver,
Discover the alarming truth about distracted truck drivers and the risks they pose on our highways. In this eye-opening video, we'll uncover the common distractions truckers face and the potentially catastrophic consequences. Stay informed and learn practical tips to enhance your safety on the road. Make sure to subscribe to the mission to promote responsible driving.
Corey (Wana-Raw-Vich) Woinarowicz
www.nocell.com
corey@nocell.com
Your Hosts
John Farquhar
Summit Risk Solutions: summitrisksolutions.ca
1 226 802-2762
John@summitrisksolutions.ca
Chris Harris
Safety Dawg Inc: safetydawg.com
Chris@SafetyDawg.com
1 905 973 7056
Attention, Ontario Trucking Companies. If you are relying on facility insurance, you could be overpaying. Reduce your insurance cost by 10, 000 or more per truck. And good news, we accept drivers with only 1 year of experience. To learn more, just send us text by typing insurance to 365 364 0714.
There was a, um, a major texting and driving accident in Southern California. It luckily, I mean thankfully it wasn't his kids, but still there were some of these kids and it was a, it really shook the community and this is where he put his stake in the ground and said, Hey, we are going to solve distracted driving
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:Hey, welcome back to the Trucking Brisket Insurance podcast with your host, Chris Harris. John Farquhar. We're, we're got a good episode today. Here we've got Corey Woinarowicz from No Cell. He's also known as Cory No Cell, and he's got an awesome tool and service that he can provide the trucking industry to help us reduce crashes and some violations at the same time. So let's get into it.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Well, let's get into her. I like Corey from No Cell. Better, right? Easier. Corey, can you give us a quick background on who you are and maybe how no cell started?
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Sure. Um, so I'm the, the C for no cell Technologies and, um, no Cell started about. Seven years, a little over seven years ago now. Um, the gentleman who started the company had, uh, actually has seven kids, which is a feat in itself. Right. And four of them were in high school at the same time. And there was a hold, hold on. I know.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:How in the heck do you have time for seven kids and start a company? Right.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:And very successful. He's got, you know, a successful company in his own right. And then he started this one. But wow. There was a, um, a major texting and driving accident in Southern California. It luckily, I mean thankfully it wasn't his kids, but still there were some of these kids and it was a, it really shook the community and this is where he put his stake in the ground and said, Hey, we are going to solve distracted driving. And so he started No Cell Technologies. Um, brought me on in October of 2019. And, uh, we have been installing and selling it ever since. Um, just about every week. We've got new, new customers coming on board now. So, you know, it's, it's a, it's, it's the. Pre it's, it's the, it's the only, um, platform right now that is proactive in safety. Mm-hmm. Right. You've got cameras, telematics, all the great stuff that goes along with it. But this is a proactive solution that will take the cell phone, the, it manages the cell phone so the drivers aren't fiddling with their cell phone the entire time that they are, you know, on the road. So it's, it's a platform that consists of a, uh, no cell tag, um, that's shaped sort of like a hockey puck. We did that for our Canadian friends so you guys would understand it. And, uh, there's an app that goes on the phone and then there's a backend portal and your fleet manager can, um, authorize your whitelist, any of the apps that they want to have active on the phone while the vehicle's in motion. All the other apps are physically removed from the phone while the vehicle's in motion. So the driver cannot get to Facebook or TikTok or any social media or anything that would be a distraction to them instead of something that's, um, you know, productive for them. Wow.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:I mean, I really like the technology and it reminds me. You know, kind of a sad story. In New York state, there was a truck driver who got convicted of, I think it was ve vehicular manslaughter, because they proved in court he was watching porn on his laptop. Wow. And I mistakenly thought this would be really easy to find. And when I Googled, you know, truck driver watching porn on his laptop, I was inundated with similar cases. Yep. And I mean, as a man, I was disgusted. Um, yeah. But no cell would greatly help in that regard, would it not?
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:It sure would. Yeah. As long it can go in on any of the devices, tablets, or whatever, as long as it has a, a wifi and a, um, Bluetooth signal. Yeah, absolutely.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:All. So, wow. Let's get back to Noel, because that was kind of a rant. I just think some of us men are pretty disgusting. Um,
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:every, so I talk to probably 60 to 80 fleets a month. Right. Either in person or on the phone or, or Zoom or whatever. And almost every single, um, client that I talked to, or potential client that I talked to has a horrific story. It might not be, you know, that same scenario, but it's, Hey, my driver was, you know, my best driver, I've had him for 20 years, he is our driver of the year. But he looked at that cell phone one time on the six, ten, ten exchange cuz he didn't know which one he was gonna go on. And all of a sudden he's t-boned somebody or, uh, you know, hitting the barriers and, and causing, I mean, It happens every single day. So that's why we're here today. Right. Because this happens. This is, this is the epidemic. Mm-hmm.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:It is. It's today's epidemic. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I, I'm sure we've all heard of the, uh, Florida case that, uh, the, with the nuclear verdict of about 1 billion. Mm-hmm. And that involved the trucking company from Quebec as well, and both commercial drivers as I. Uh, understand that crash, both commercial drivers, cell phones, had a lot to do with, uh, that fatal crash.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Yeah, it's, it's, it's horrific. I hear these stories every single day and, you know, we sort of get tired of the stories when we know that there's a solution today, right now that you could put in your fleet and you could, you could, you know, eliminate. The cell phone distraction from the cab. We still can't do anything about dogs and hamburgers. Right. But we can do something about cell phones. Sure. For sure. Sure.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:So explain again. If I was to get that hockey puck, it's white. It's the wrong color for a hockey puck.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:If I was, it reminds me of a tinbit that's been squished.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:So if I was to get a no cell puck, explain to me what I, what am I doing, and then what are the steps that I would incorporate within my company?
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:So you would put the no cell tag in your, or the, the pocket either way. Um, the no cell tag in the, on the, a pillar of the driver's side of the vehicle. Um, so that we can tell, we'll, in future releases we'll be able to let you know who's in the pa uh, driver's seat, passenger seat and who's in the sleeper. Um, but you would put that on the, a pillar of the driver's side of the vehicle. Um, there's an app that is loaded up on the driver's phones and then there's a back end portal. That allows you to, it creates an aggregate list of apps that are on all the, the phones of the group. You, you authorize just the apps that you want to have active while the vehicle's in motion. So maybe a nav navigation app and an E L D and you know, maybe like, uh, Spotify or something if they wanna listen to music. Everything else, when the vehicle gets up to speed, which is determined by the fleet manager in the portal, um, you know, it's, Four miles an hour or whatever, six kilometers per hour, right? As soon as they get up to that speed, then the phone goes into policy. The apps that are not authorized are physically removed from the phone while the vehicle's in motion.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:And what I like about that, as you were speaking, the name Joe Fried or Joe Fried came into my mind. Um, and for those listeners and watchers, uh, I've never met Joe. But I've seen him on a few talk shows, and he is a prosecuting attorney that specializes in nuclear verdicts of trucking companies. And wouldn't this technology give the defense a lot of ammunition to help navigate? Oh, sure.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Mm-hmm. Yeah, because right now, um, trucking companies or, you know, you know, all fleets, commercial fleets, they, no, normally they have a, um, a cell phone policy, right. So the driver signs that cell phone policy on the first day, and then the pinky promise that they are not going to use their cell phone, you know, while they're, while they're driving, well now they sign the, the cell phone policy or the safety policy, and now they have a way to enforce and prove that they're enforcing that, that safety policy and that cell phone policy. So if you go into, you know, if you've got a more defensible position, Hey, and, and, um, also you can't, you can't measure the crashes that don't happen. Mm-hmm. But I mean, we, we have several customers that, since they've put this in, they have not had one single distracted driving by the cell phone crash. Wow. Zero zero insurance claims because of the cell phone. Um, related collisions or crashes. So, I mean, it keeps you out of the courtroom, but if you have to go into the courtroom, at least you have the, the fact that you do have a policy, you are enforcing the policy and you can prove it. Yep.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:So as a, as a driver, um, hiring onto a company or they implement this program, obviously I would have to bring my phone in and you would access something to download the app or whatever be, but then, As a driver, after a couple of weeks, I'm going, ah, I don't like this. I want to be able to access some stuff. So, you know what? Maybe while I'm at home this weekend, I'm gonna delete that, uh, that no sell app. I'm gonna, I'll fix you guys, I'll delete the app off there and, uh, we won't have to worry about it. What's, what's stopping me from doing that? Like, you know, now, now all of a sudden I've
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:just beat your program. So that's a great question, John, and that does, you know, that does occur. Not frequently, but it has occurred in the past. And what happens is when that driver gets back in the cab, the next time there's an inactivity alert, right? Mm-hmm. So then it, it alerts the fleet manager, that driver 1 23 John is not, um, is not, phone's not going into policy, right? There's something wrong. Either the, the driver's taking that tag and checked it out the window or, you know, there's, there's something else that, that is occurring. So the fleet manager would be able to. Um, you know, address that with the driver right off the bat. Mm-hmm. If they do it while the phone's in policies, say they're going down, I, whatever, you know, um, and, and Quebec and all of a sudden, um, they decide they're gonna turn off the, uh, kill the Bluetooth or kill the app. There's a pin that's dropped on the map for the fleet manager, and those two are automatically turned on the phone once again, so they can't get around the system. Um, the other alerts are if the driver picks up the phone from the cradle, there's a phone handling alert that um, occurs and there's a pin that's dropped, so you know exactly where the driver is when they pick up that phone. Mm-hmm. And then the other one is, um, if they have their company phone or if they have the phone that has a no sell lock on it and it's, it's supervised and they only have the apps that the Dr the company wants 'em to have, but they pick up a burner phone at Walmart or something like that and they wanna watch Netflix or, you know, whatever, you know, their, their guilty pleasure is, um, we will be able to let them know that there's another device in the vehicle at that time, a rogue device. Oh,
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:and that was a question that came to my mind when John was asking his, could I not just bring another cell phone with me? Especially if it's a company issued cell phone. Most drivers would have their own personal cell phone, right?
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Mm-hmm. So, so I mean, we can, we can, um, no cell can supervise up to three devices. At a time. So if they have, they have their company cell phone, they have a personal cell phone and they have a tablet, you can put the app on all three and they can, they can be supervised, um, inside that cab. So wow. If they, if they don't put the app on it, we just recognize that there is another device, um, in, in the vehicle. We had a company down, down here in Texas, or actually up in Oklahoma City, and they're in the oil field business. And they had a strict, um, there was a single driver per cab and no cell phone, um, at all, you know, no cell phone usage whatsoever. So they put us in and they quickly found out that the driver was picking up another passenger on his route. And that passenger had two cell phones with them, so he was breaking sort of the unintended consequence. But I mean, it's, it's, that's what occurred and that's how we, um, continue to strengthen the product, is by having the drivers use it.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Right. Yeah. Wow. And, and I wonder if the passenger was female. I, I
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:do not know. And it did not.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:I mean, we hear all the time about off route miles. Mm-hmm. And I'm sure it still happens that long distance drivers mm-hmm. Um, have friends that they want to go see. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. And if it's, you know, within a hundred miles of my route, what's the harm? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But what else about no cell? So that was pretty interesting that you can detect how many cell phones are actually in the cab. Correct? What, what is the radius around the puck that you, it works for?
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:So Bluetooth is, is a 150 meters Right. But our algorithm, um, that'll, it'll shrink it down just to the driver's envelope. Right now, so we can tell you, you know, so it's not, it's not tracking or, or affecting any other phones that are outside the vehicle if they're in traffic or whatever. Um, the algorithm will eliminate any, any vehicles that are, uh, pacing that the, the, the vehicle that has a no cell in it. Okay? So, and like I said, in future revisions or future releases, we'll be able to let you know who's in the driver's seat, position A, who's in the passenger seat, position B, who's in the sleeper, and those three positions will have different. Be able to fleet manager be able to set up different permissions for those different positions.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:That would be cool. And you know, cool. As you're speaking there, I'm thinking again how my mind works. Well, if I'm in a truck stop, am I, are you gonna pick up cell phones from the guy sleeping beside the next truck over from me? And of course it doesn't work because it's turned off cuz I'm not going above the speed limit.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Correct. Yeah. I mean, you get to a threshold, usually the, the threshold is set between three and four miles per hour down here in the States. Right. And that's where the, the phone would go into policy. There is a delay mechanism built into it. So it's, it's anywhere and it's set in the portal by the fleet manager. So anywhere from five, uh, three, uh, five seconds, up to three minutes. So if they get to a red light or a stop sign or stop and go traffic, it keeps the cell phone and policy. For that amount of time. So every time they come to a stop sign, they're not picking up the, the phone and, you know, trying to is outta the cab. It's a completely dead app. So it doesn't track anything. Doesn't track. I don't care where you go to dinner. You know, all we wanna do is make sure that the driver's not messing with the phone and they get home safely every night instead of these terrific stories that everyone's talking about. Yeah.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:So as a, as a fleet manager then, um, if, if I subscribe to no sell, obviously I'm going to get a, a tag for each of the vehicles, um, correct. Do I do in the portal, uh, that I'm working from on the back office side? Uh, do I have to assign the phone to that tag? So if that driver is utilizing that truck, I have to assign him to that tag, or do they, so,
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:It's another great question, John. It's almost like I paid you to ask these questions.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:I haven't collected my check yet. So anyway, I,
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:I was gonna say we're open to bribes, but
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:it's a, it's a one-to-one and a many to many solutions. So if they've got a, um, you know, a fleet where they just, a driver jumps in the next available vehicle. If the driver's in vehicle one on Monday in vehicle 17 on Tuesday, as long as there's a tag in the vehicle and an app on the phone, it automatically pairs up. So that, and then it lets you, the, um, fleet manager know who's in what vehicle at what time and it'll start their day. Okay.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:Okay. Yep. So, cool. Cool. Now you said, so I take, sorry. I was gonna say, I take it, I take it, the tag is registered to the company then, like the motor carrier or whoever's buying that
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:service. Correct. The tag is, is assigned to the vehicle and the, so the tag identify identifies the vehicle, and then the app on the phone identifies the driver. Oh, okay. Okay.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:So that explains one to many. Mm-hmm. Yes. Hmm. Did, did you have another question that you wanted to pay John to ask? I dunno how I'm getting left out of this payment stuff, but John, you gotta take me golfing.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah,
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:sorry. Did I know, I know that you were gonna ask me about, you know, driver, why did, what do the drivers feel right off the bat, right? Why would you, why would a driver allow this to be on the phone? Right. And it's really how the, um, the companies position it. And, and if company positions it, like, Hey, we're investing in your safety, right? This is no different than, you know, an e l D is seatbelt, you know, or, or whatever else we put in the cab. Um, we wanna make sure you get home safely every single night. Um, at, at first I have drivers like, Hey, there's no way you're putting this on my cell phone. It's an invasion of privacy, yada, yada, yada. And then, You know, 10 days into it, they're like, this is great. I don't have any buzz beats or dings to, um, you know, to distract me whatsoever. It takes a lot away, a lot of the stress of driving. We find that the, um, uh, the phone handling alerts go down, uh, over 70%, well over 70% after the first 10 days. Because the drivers are, are treating themselves not to pick up the phone. Right. You know, because there's the apps that they wanted. Were not on the phone while they're, while they're driving, so they
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:just don't Yeah. They're, they're, they're realizing those notifications are not there anymore. Right. So I'm assuming when they, when they stop, then all of a sudden my Facebook feed, my Twitter feed, my, my TikTok, all of a sudden binging, bing, bing, bang, everything's catching up and well, now you're part, now you can deal with those things, right? In a, in a structured manner where I don't have to worry about what's going on out the windshield cuz hey, I'm parked.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:So, yes. And, and I was gonna add that. When I drive and I hear that stupid phone alerts. Mm-hmm. It does e it's so hard not to look at the phone. Yeah, yeah. And so by no cell eliminating that, you're, you've taken that temptation away and simplified my life. Yeah,
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:yeah, yeah. Absolutely. And there's a, I mean, there's a chemical reaction that occurs right when you hear that buzz beep or ding. It, there's a dopamine that it's released. So it's, it's a, it's an actual addiction to the phone. Mm-hmm. And to the notification. Right. And if you can take away that, that notification, take away that buzzby or ding, then it, you know, eliminates that portion of it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:Have you, have you got very many, um, Accounts or, or clients that are like personal where, you know, a family, uh, mom and dad want to put it in their cars so that the kids when they're driving have, have you had any of that or is it mostly commercial business?
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:So right now it, it's a hundred percent commercial. We do though have, um, um, a lot of, uh, instances where the, um, fleet has, let's say they have 150 trucks, right by the order a hundred and. Um, you know, 155 no sell tax. Well, they, it ends up at, they, they get their, their spouse and their kids all, you know, on the platform and they just created a different group called Family in the Portal. Okay. And then they can take care of it. We are working with three different insurance carriers down in the States right now that, uh, and one of 'em is pretty close to bringing it to their personal lines, so you Wow. Will see the no cell technology under a different name. Um, you know, to take care of, you know, teenage drivers, you know, 16 to 21 or whatever. Sure,
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:sure.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:That would be awesome. Yeah, I, I could actually see, uh, personal lines, insurance companies, uh, getting on board this, uh, to help curb this problem a and making this part of the policy program. You know, where we're, we're, you know, it's kinda like some of the user-based insurance in some programs already. I know. I believe it's, uh, progressive that has it. Uh, there's a, a company up here in, uh, Quebec, in Canada that is using user-based insurance, and I can see them going, Hey, uh, put this in your vehicle and, uh, you could see a reduction in your insurance premiums.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:So, yeah. And we are seeing a lot of activity from captive insurance, insurance groups as well. Right, because they, they actually write their own check. So we've got a little bit more leverage with their members and they, they are pushing. We've got, um, one right now that is pushing to have this installed, um, you know, on the entirety of the, the members, about 9,000 vehicles over the next 18 to 24 months. Wow.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Oh gosh, that's, yeah. And it makes total sense to me, at least in captives, because as you say, they do have a little more, um, control. And they got more skin in the game.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:They have more skin in the game, for sure. Yeah.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Well, even the insureds have more skin in the game if they're part of the captive. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:that's, and even, I was gonna say, even just even in the normal, uh, like the open market, um, You know, if you're, if you're sitting there with a $25,000 deductible, you know, and depending on how many crashes you have that are distraction related, um, my God, you could save a ton of money.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Yeah. It seems, it seems like a no-brainer to me. It really does. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it, it's not all, it's not, uh, a huge cost. Um, it's easy to install. Um, it works, right. So, I mean, it seems like a complete no-brainer. And, you know, hopefully, We can get it in every single fleet across United States, Canada, and Mexico in the next, you know, three to five years.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Yeah. And yeah, this isn't exactly new technology. When was the company started?
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:The, the company, um, started in 2016.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Yeah. So Sure. We're we're talking, sorry. What's that? Seven years old. Seven years ago. Yeah. Yeah.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Yeah, it continues to evolve. I mean, we've got a huge team of developers that are always trying to, you know, add new features and keep up with the, the Android operating system and the iOS operating system and trying to, you know, it's a cat and mouse game, so we're trying to stay ahead of this entire
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:time. Well, and you just brought up an important point. It works on both Android and Apple devices, correct.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Yeah. Cool. Also set up for, we're also set up for, you know, um, you know, so we're set up in kilometers per hour. We can, um, have the portal and everything in Spanish. I mean, so we are set up to do business all over North America at this point in time.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Cool, cool. So you can speak Canadian a you can put it in kilometers.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:So a fun little fact, Chris, is I spent, um, a better part of four years playing baseball up in, in Canada. So I speak, uh, Canadian very well. And by the way, I was a catcher, not a back catcher. That's just what they, they used to call me when I was, you know, playing baseball.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:And Where did
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:you play up here? I played up in, uh, Lethbridge, Alberta. Um, in, um, Eston Saskatchewan and up in Calgary.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:So nice. Lethbridge is every time somebody says Lethbridge, I just remember the huge train trestle. Yes, yes. The highest bridge. The big
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:The big, the big cooley up there.
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:Yep. Yeah. And windy is all Get out every by the Seventh Inn, man. It was blowing out, so Yeah. Good.
John Farquhar, Summit Risk Solutions:Well, that's why you, that's why you needed a back catcher, a front catcher and a mid catcher to hit the ball when it was in the air with the wind. Yes.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:No kidding. Alright, so Corey, getting back to Noel, what else do we need to know about the technology?
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:You know, it's, it's, um, so the, the, you start out, it's, I'll just give you the, the pricing if that's okay. It's, it's us. Per vehicle per year. So it's about $12 US per vehicle that comes. That first year covers your no cell tag or the puck as you say. Um, and the, all the onboarding, the training, the, the whole works. The second year it gets even better. It's $108 per vehicle per year us, so it's $9. Per vehicle us, um, per month. I mean, it's, it's, it's one of the most inexpensive insurance policies, internal insurance policies you're ever gonna have. I mean, it, it's, the ROI on it could be two weeks. Right. Because again, you can't measure the crashes that don't happen. Mm-hmm. But you can measure year over year and see that, you know, they are going to go down substantially.
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Yep. Yeah. And of course we've got a link in the show notes if you wanna reach out to Corey and no sell. Mm-hmm. Um, and. Unfortunately, it's not an affiliate link, so don't be afraid to click it, but I'll speak to Corey after the thing and see if we can set up an affiliate. But Corey, I just wanna say thanks so much because John and I, as you know, are deeply involved in safety, um, in North America, and I really believe the no cell technology can do, uh, Just take us to the next level and prevent crashes, and if we can prevent crashes, we're gonna save lives. And that's,
Corey Woinarowicz, NoCell:we potentially save lives every single time we install. And it's not just the live of the life of the driver that has the no cell in it. It's the passenger vehicle that doesn't get t-boned. It's, you know, it's that ripple effect of a crash. It's just enormous. Right? And oh yeah. More people that we can, um, save or keep from getting, you know, hit every day the better. That's why we wake up. Early every morning to, you know, do things like this and you know, preach the gospel according to safety and make sure that people get home every night. Right?
Chris Harris, Safety Dawg:Yep. Yep. Big time. I appreciate it cuz I drive every day on these roads. So Corey, from No Cell, I appreciate your time. Thanks so much and I encourage you all to reach out to Corey and see if you can make your fleet just a little safer. Thanks Corey. Thanks Corey. Appreciate. What a great interview. Thanks Cory from No Cell and what awesome technology. I really hope that you will look into this cuz I do believe this. No cell technology can save an awful lot of lives. And reduce distracted driving, which is, um, an evil at the moment. So reach out to Corey and he'll take care of you. His contact info is in the show notes down below. And John and I would like to thank you once again for listening to the Trucking Risk and Insurance podcast. Thanks, and see you next week.